The Top of the World in Switzerland with Olympic Gold medalist Ryan Regez

The Eiger

I've wanted to do this episode for a while.

The Bernese Oberland is like stepping into a picture postcard with the small villages of Wengen, Murren and Grindlewald hosting some amazing skiing. All with the famed Eiger as the backdrop.

If your idea of the perfect ski trip includes spectacular mountains, incredible skiing, charming villages, modern lifts, great food, and just enough après-ski to keep things interesting, skiing the Jungfrau region of Switzerland deserves a very serious look.

Located in Switzerland’s Bernese Oberland, south of Interlaken, the Jungfrau region combines three unforgettable mountain villages — Wengen, Grindelwald and Mürren — beneath one of the most dramatic backdrops in the Alps: the Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau.

With more than 250 kilometers of skiing and terrain for virtually every ability level, the Jungfrau region is big enough to keep you exploring for days. Better yet, every turn comes with a view that could belong on a Swiss tourism poster.

Welcome to Wengen, Grindelwald and Mürren

The Jungfrau ski region is really three experiences in one.

Wengen is the quintessential Swiss mountain village. It is car-free, compact, family-friendly and perched dramatically above the Lauterbrunnen Valley. For many skiers, it is the perfect home base for exploring the region.

Grindelwald has a bigger, livelier feel. Think larger Alpine town, more restaurants, more activity and a different energy. It offers excellent intermediate and advanced skiing, particularly around Grindelwald-First.

Then there is Mürren, the high-altitude, car-free village that feels like it was designed specifically for skiers looking for steeper terrain, freeride opportunities and jaw-dropping views.

Why Wengen Is a Skier’s Dream

Olympic ski-cross gold medalist Ryan Regez, who grew up in Wengen and is a member of the Wengen Ski Club, knows the area about as well as anyone. His advice is simple: get up the mountain early.

A local’s typical Wengen ski day starts with the 8:15 or 8:30 cable car from the village to Männlichen. Get a few runs in before the crowds arrive, then head toward Kleine Scheidegg as the connecting lifts open. That early start is more than just a strategy for avoiding lift lines. It lets you experience the mountain as the locals do.

Beginners have plenty of forgiving terrain, intermediates can cruise miles of beautifully groomed pistes, while advanced skiers can find steeper challenges and freeride terrain.

The village itself is part of the attraction. Wengen is small — roughly a thousand year-round residents — with essentially one main street. It feels intimate, traditional and distinctly Alpine.

Chasing the Sun — or the Shade

One of the great insider tricks in the Jungfrau ski area is understanding where the sun hits the mountain. In winter, different slopes warm up at different times of day. If you're looking for softer snow, follow the sun toward areas such as Lauberhorn and Männlichen as the morning progresses.

If you'd rather ski firm, cold snow, head for the shaded slopes. Head to the The Nordwand area the runs can remain shaded for much of the day, helping preserve the snow and offering excellent conditions for stronger skiers.

Where Should Experts Ski?

For advanced skiers, Mürren is the obvious place to explore.

Head toward Schilthorn, where the terrain becomes steeper and more challenging. There are plenty of black pistes and opportunities to find more serious skiing.

Wengen also has excellent advanced terrain, particularly around Kleine Scheidegg and the Lauberhorn area.

And then there is the scenery.

The Eiger's enormous north face dominates the landscape, making even a routine chairlift ride feel like an expedition into the high Alps.

The Jungfrau region has also invested heavily in lift infrastructure. Modern lifts and cable cars make it possible to cover enormous amounts of terrain efficiently, while spectacular installations such as the connections around the Eiger make getting around part of the experience.

Intermediate Skiers: Start Exploring

Wengen may actually be the best all-around choice because of its combination of terrain, lift access and variety.

Grindelwald-First is another excellent option, particularly for intermediate and freestyle skiers. The terrain is broad and enjoyable, although the highest lifts can become busy.

For confident beginners, there are also plenty of opportunities to expand your horizons.

The key is not to think of the Jungfrau as one ski resort.

Think of it as an enormous Alpine playground.

And Then There’s the Lauberhorn

Even non-ski racing fans will recognize the Lauberhorn. The legendary downhill course is one of the most famous venues in World Cup skiing, and skiing around the start area gives visitors a connection to the history of the sport. You can follow the mountain, ski the surrounding pistes and imagine what it must be like to attack this terrain at World Cup speed. Of course, most of us will be considerably slower.

There’s More to Jungfrau Than Skiing

One of the reasons the Jungfrau region works so well for a group trip is that not everyone has to ski.

Wengen offers snowshoeing, sledding, hockey, curling, hiking and scenic mountain experiences. You can even take helicopter rides over the Alps.

And if you like sledding, be prepared for some serious fun.

The region has spectacular sled runs, including long descents from the mountains toward Wengen. Grindelwald is home to some particularly wild sledding terrain, while Wengen offers options suitable for both beginners and experienced sledders.

Just remember: if you're not confident with the brakes, practice first.

Your backside will thank you.

Don’t Miss the Jungfraujoch

For a day away from skiing, take the journey to Jungfraujoch — the “Top of Europe.”

Tickets should be booked in advance, and the journey provides an opportunity to experience one of the region’s most spectacular attractions. At the top, you can explore the ice caves, take in the enormous Alpine panorama and look toward the Aletsch Glacier. On a clear day, the views stretch toward Germany's Black Forest.

It is one of those experiences that reminds you that a ski trip to Switzerland doesn't have to be all about skiing.

Après-Ski, Swiss Style

After a day on the mountain, Wengen offers plenty of places to relax, grab a drink and watch the world go by. The village has a friendly, community-oriented atmosphere, with a mix of locals, regular visitors and international skiers. There is a strong English-speaking presence, along with German and other languages.

Mountain bars provide plenty of opportunities to warm up, soak up the sun or simply admire the scenery.

And yes, the après-ski starts early. By lunchtime, you may already hear music and singing coming from the mountain.

Where Should You Stay?

If you want charm, convenience and a classic Swiss Alpine experience, Wengen is hard to beat.

If you're looking for a larger village, more nightlife, freestyle skiing and a broader range of activities, Grindelwald may be your choice.

If steep terrain, freeriding and dramatic mountain scenery are at the top of your list, Mürren deserves serious consideration.

The beauty of Jungfrau skiing is the combination of terrain, scenery, culture and personality. One day you can ski beneath the Eiger, the next you can try a run down a Lauberhorn piste, and the next you can explore Mürren or take the train to Jungfraujoch.

That's what makes the Jungfrau region special. But especially, take the train.

Our Favs

Hotel - Arenas Victoria-Lauberhorn - it's close to the train and the Manlichen tram, has great views and has a good breakfast

Dinner - the Eiger - the food is good, traditional Swiss - yes they have fondue and more. Oh yeah, its also reasonable in price.

Apres - The Pickle Bar in Wengen or the Hutte in Kleine Scheigegg

Favorite Run - the run under the WIXI lift

Episode Transcript

Welcome to Where to Ski. I'm John Morgan. I'm excited for today's episode.

Skiing is a combination of many things to me. The hill, the snow, the beauty of the surroundings, the ambience, and a touch of history all combined to make the experience. Today we're going somewhere that hits all those boxes, the Jungfrau region of Switzerland.

Grab your skis, let's go ski Switzerland's Bernese Oberland. The Jungfrau region sits south of Interlaken, about two hours south of Zurich by car, two and a half by train. It includes three main interconnected ski towns, going from east to west, Grindelwald, Wengen, and Murren.

Wengen and Murren are car-free and accessible only by train and cable car. The awe-inspiring backdrop for the entire region is the famed Eiger, one of the biggest sheer faces in Europe, surrounded by the Monk and the Jungfrau. In English, that's the Ogre, the Monk, and the Maiden.

This overlooks Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen. Over 250 kilometers of skiing with terrain for every level of skier is served by new and breathtaking equipment. Scale of the region is overwhelming.

You can spend multiple days skiing the area and not ski the same thing twice, or experience the towns and the culture. This is not a one-day ski trip. My guest today is Switzerland's gold medal winner in the 2022 Olympics in the ski cross.

He's dedicated his life so far to skiing. Ryan Regez grew up in Wengen, has Swiss-British dual citizenship, and is a member of the Wengen Ski Club. Who better to lead us through this amazing region? Ryan, welcome to Where to Ski.

I'm really honored to have you with us today. How's the training going? Thank you very much. It's an honor to be here as well.

Training's going really well. Currently, it's a bit of an issue due to there was an earth slide covering the road up to Saas Fee. So yeah, needed to postpone my training for this week.

Therefore, next week's going to be more intense. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We're getting either 30 degrees and hotter, like super humid weather, or rain, torrential rain.

It's either or. Therefore, it's a bit difficult at the moment. And what was your question? Are you psyched for the season? Oh, I'm so excited, yes.

It's been a while since I've skied, and it's been a while since I've skied well. Therefore, it's time to show what I'm good luck for the season. So you grew up and you still live in Wengen most of the time.

What's it like waking up in Wengen? And you know, there's so much there. It's a huge, huge area. How do you decide where you're going to ski any given day? Well, that's pretty easy.

I mean, you want to be up the mountain as first person, and you want to get up there super early before the crowds hit. So therefore, the local way to do it is you take the 815 or 830 cable car up from the town center to Mannlichen. Then you do a couple of runs there until the connection lifts open, such as Gummi, which goes over to Kleine Scheidegg.

You complete that loop, and in a nutshell, that's going to be your day skiing down to Wengen again. That sounds pretty cool. Like I said, it's a big area.

What do you expect when you get there? You know, people who get up there, they drive up, they probably go up to Lauterbrunnen either by train or they drive and park and take the train up. When you get there, tell people what to expect and what to look for when they're going up. Well, first, how to get there.

Wengen's a remote village, not accessible by car. Therefore, you're not going to be able to drive up all the way. You mentioned that you can either drive to Lauterbrunnen or Grindelwald or even leave your car outside of the valley, which would make more sense, honestly.

Cheaper parking and a lot more spaces. They just built a brand new train station. It's called Motten.

What's it called? It's just before Wildersville, so it's literally before Wildersville and Interlaken East. You can either get there by train or if you park your car there, there's a lot of parking spaces. It's, I think, five francs a day.

It's right next to the train. Hop on the train and you get up to Grindelwald or you go to Lauterbrunnen via Wengen up on the piece. So that's on how you get there.

Other possibilities would be drive back, all the way back into the valley, park in the park house in Lauterbrunnen or in one of the available parking spaces. However, in high season, it does get very crowded and especially if you're on the way out, it's going to be quite annoying due to one road leading out the valley. So really recommend park your car in Wildersville, take the train from there.

It's the easiest way. And what expects you in Wengen? I mean, it's a beautiful, stunning mountain village. It's overlooking the Lauterbrunnen Valley, which is a place carved out by the glaciers.

It's just a fantastic view. It's a sun-bathed terrace with fantastic views just below the Mannlichen. You've got the Lauberhorn on the other side.

You've got the Lauport. It's a beautiful mountain range. And of course, the Jungfrau overlooking everything.

It's what a place to grow up in. I think it's the most stunning place I've ever been. You look out in the morning and Wengen is a tiny, tiny town.

It's not, say, Kitzbühel or it's not even Saas Fee is much bigger than that. And it's got one street pretty much. There's a lot of cow paths, but there's one street.

And that, you know, unless you've got the Lauberhorn going on, it's usually fairly empty. It's not, you know, at nine o'clock at night, it's rolled up and everyone's getting ready to ski except for a couple of places where people are still partying. Yeah, absolutely.

So the thing about Wengen is it's very family oriented. If we go over to Grindelwald first, that's going to be more the Freestyle location or even Freestyle would be more on the Murren side. Also on Murren side, you've got, let's say, the difficult slopes, the black piste, as we call them.

We've got the three levels, blue, red, blue, which would be beginners, red, which would be intermediate and black would be advanced. That's for sure more on the, well, the advanced side would be more Murren because it's just steep. And also for free riding, that's great.

However, Wengen has the combination of everything except the park aspect of it. You've got good free riding. You've got a ton of piste, all levels, great lifts, the infrastructure works.

It's honestly fantastic. And therefore, yeah, Wengen is literally a great place to be. And that whole area, the whole Jungfrau has made a huge investment in the lifts.

They're modern. They're pretty cool. The new one that comes up from Grindelwald to the face of the Eiger up to Kleineschneidig is amazing.

You just feel like you can touch the Eiger going by. And I know they're putting a new lift in the Schildhorn that goes up to Murren. And so that's going to be pretty spectacular.

And Wengen has got the Mannlichen lift, which the cable car, which is pretty spectacular on its own. It is. It's a very steep thing.

It's a cable car. They would fit up to 80 people in, I think, in summer. But however, now they've got this winding stairwell up and they've got the crown on top of the cable car.

So therefore, you're basically outside on a terrace. I've done that once. You pay a little up, a little extra to go up there.

Definitely worth it. Definitely worth it. And just when you're up on Mannlichen and overview the whole valley and just see Wengen, it's literally sitting on this mountain terrace.

It's got the great panorama with Eigermannchen Jungfrau, which you see up there. And usually you see some mountain goats on the way up or you see all the avalanche barriers and you can tell the Americans that they're cowcatchers for summer. Nice, nice.

Thanks a lot. So let's start off with expert skiers. You were talking about Murren being really the place where there's some really serious pitch.

And so I've been there when there's been some amazing snow up high too. Where would you take expert skiers? Where would you take expert runs? Honestly, just go straight up to the Schildhorn all the way and just work your way down. And whichever lifts you like, stick with them.

They've got a lot of steep runs, a little bit older lifts. And if then you look for more easy, intermediate kind of piece, you go direction Wintereggenski down there. Going up to the Schildhorn, I have not done this, but going up the tram to the left, it's out of bounds.

There's some off-piste over there. It looks like it's pretty serious stuff. You ever skied that? I have never skied that.

So that's the thing. If you're a professional athlete, especially in winter sports, you don't get a lot of time to ski for yourself. Therefore, when I go ski, it's in Wengen and that's probably for three days a year.

And the rest of either in Sarsfjord for the whole preparation or in Argentina, Chile this year, luckily not because we land on the glaciers. And as soon as the race training starts, we'll either be in St. Moritz, Davos, and then head on to the races wherever they will be. A lot of ski areas will ski as you go through the day, you sort of change your approach because the sun hits different places, different times.

Is there a way to ski Wengen? You talked about going up to Mannlichen and then waiting for the lifts to open and going over to Kleine Schneidegg. How does that ski in terms of as the sun progresses and where to ski? Yes. So the sun would go up over the top of Honig, that's the non-coloured six-man bubble lift, chairlift, or the top of Lauberhorn would get sun earliest.

Mannlichen side would get it rather soon, let's say 10.30 maybe in winter. So it depends what you're looking for. If you're looking for a bit softer piece and you're chasing the sun, your best bet is either to go up to Kleine Schneidegg by train from Wengen, then you would either go, that depends on your level, let's say you're an expert skier, good, you go from Kleine Schneidegg down, take the Honig lift, go straight up, then you're in the sun, but it's just going to be the top.

That's a red piece with an option of staying red or getting into the black difficulty-wise. Or you can go down direction Arpen and take the orange bubble Nordwand lift all the way up to the new terminal, which they built up there. Then you head down either Black Rock, if it's open, down Ogod, and you get all the way down to the Vixie lift.

They call it Lauberhorn Express. I'm pretty sure they've changed the name back to Vixie just because all locals kept calling it that, and it's known for that. It used to be a super old two-man chairlift, and now it's a really modern six-person chairlift with the yellow bubble and the yellow and black seats.

That would get you up to the start hut of the Lauberhorn downhill. That would be sun-bathed rather soon. If you're getting cold, head up there.

Or you can even get there directly from Kleine Scheidegg. You just walk up, what's that, maybe 50 meters from Kleine Scheidegg. There usually is a drag lift, or you actually can walk it, and take the Lauberhorn lift, the official Lauberhorn lift.

That will bring you up just a bit higher than the start hut of the Lauberhorn workout, and that's going to be in the sun pretty early on in the day. Yeah, and there's that catwalk that goes over across to the top of Vixie and all the restaurant and the top of the Lauberhorn. Exactly, exactly.

However, if you're looking for shade and solid piece, best bet is Nordbahn, so the orange bubble lift down Blackrock. That stays in the shade almost all day. All of the former Salzburg, it was called.

We had to train there as kids all the time because it was in the shade. It wasn't as busy, and it was a T-bar chair, T-bar lift up. That was so steep, so that was only for expert skiers.

However, now it's a very comfortable and pleasant six-person chairlift up with the orange bubble, so that's going to be in the shade almost all day, if not all day. Some rays might hit the slopes, but that's going to be in the shade. Then Mannlichen would get some close to lunchtime for sure.

Okay, what about intermediate skiing? I know Grindelwald first is sort of targeted more for intermediates. It's a little bit harder to get to. You have to go through town and get to the other side to get to the tram to go up there.

Yeah. What's skiing like over there? Honestly, I prefer Wengen just because it spreads more, so you've got eight more kilometers, and it's just a wider range and also more lifts. In Grindelwald, you can go up to Fist, and then you can ski on the top lift over there, which is going to be the piece there.

Fantastic. Also, for intermediate skiing, the park is up there, so literally you take the cable car all the way up to Fist, go 50 meters outside on your skis, just for cat track, as you mentioned earlier, and take the four-person chairlift up. Great slopes up there.

I think it's called Obriach, not 100% sure. However, that's the highest lift, and that's the highest one up. Therefore, it will get a bit busy.

It's got a good frequency, so it will take a lot of people up the mountain. The pieces are wide enough, so that's not an issue. However, you might have to wait a minute or two at the bottom.

Then the lower down you go, honestly, it's just whatever you prefer. It's got intermediate slopes. It's also got easier slopes.

It's more on the, let's say, difficult side or intermediate to hard side. However, if you're a beginner and you feel comfortable in your snowplow, honestly, give it a try. Well, there's a lot of areas for intermediate, beginner skiers and kids to ski all through the whole region.

Now, you were talking about the cowcatchers going up Mount Lincoln. Yes. That brings up snow control.

Do you guys in Bingen, is there a lot of avalanche control besides the permanent stuff that's in place? Otherwise, yes. We've got the cowcatchers. We've got the avalanche barriers, which are quite high up.

The trees, the local pine trees, they grow up to an altitude of about 1,800, maybe slightly higher meters. That would be what, 5,500 feet, something like that. Trees grow up to there.

Therefore, that is a snow control. The local authorities or the forest people, they actually plant trees as a prevention for avalanches. Otherwise, you can either go up with helicopters and drop bombs.

They will give a shockwave that will release the avalanche. Those would be controlled avalanches to release the pressure to make it safe for skiers. That's one option.

With the helicopter and others, they've got lifts as well. They take it pretty seriously, as they should, because it's got to keep the guests safe. You were talking a little bit about trying to beat the crowds.

Does it get crowded up there? It's close to Zurich. It's close to Bern. People can make even a day trip out of it pretty easily and a short weekend trip.

Honestly, from Bern, it's probably until you're up the mountain in less than two hours. From Zurich, maybe two and a half, three, then you're up the mountain. Yes, it would be a long day, but it's possible.

Absolutely. Even better if you get to stay a night or two or even a week in Wengen, just because it's so beautiful with the whole atmosphere. You can beat the crowds through going up early.

Plus, the cable car beats the crowds a lot. If you come up from the valley, you're either going to go via Lauterbrunnen, so you're going to get in the train. If you stay seated in the train, you're going to go up to Wengen, then Almond, Wengen, then Kleine Scheidegg.

If you take the train up from Lauterbrunnen to Wengen, you can get out there and get on the cable car up to Mannlichen, or you can do it the other way around and go over Grindelwald. Either you leave your car out, take the train into the terminal or drive all the way, park in the terminal or close by, and take the V-Bahn, Foldbahn, up either to Eigergletscher, which is Kleine Scheidegg side, or to Mannlichen. Both super fast and efficient.

Yeah, that new terminal in Grindelwald, that thing is huge. It's amazing. Massive.

Yeah, absolutely massive. They've got a co-op in there. They've got rentals in there.

They've got shops in there. Honestly, great thing. If you arrive by train, it takes you up the mountain super fast.

Yeah, it's like a 100-meter walk to get from the train to the lift. It's pretty cool. Now, not everyone skis or boards.

Wengen and all the surrounding towns are not only about skiing. I've played hockey there. I've taken helicopter rides.

I've hiked, sledded. I've watched curling. There's all sorts of cool stuff to do.

You can go up to the top of the Schildhorn and visit Peace Gloria, where they filmed that James Bond movie. What's your favorite stuff to do in that area when you're not skiing? We've got many alternatives. You've mentioned a few.

Personally, if I get to spend several days up in Wengen, I love to go skiing in the morning, chill in the afternoon, get a drink by one of the snow bars, and go play hockey. Love playing hockey. I've done curling in the past.

It's fun. It's fun, for sure. Definitely, but I prefer hockey.

I've got a great ice field. I've got curling tournaments. They've got a local club which plays hockey.

Usually, I think the ice would open from about lunchtime onwards. I think Thursdays, it stays open until 10 o'clock in the evening. If you want to play hockey, you just literally go onto the ice, rent your equipment, bring your own.

You can also rent sticks and pucks, just for your information. If you head out there anytime mid-afternoon, there'll be a bunch of local kids or just kids or even grown-ups just playing hockey. You can have your little games in a friendly setting, so not too competitive.

If you want it to be competitive, it's up to you. You can also go snowshoeing with some friends a couple of years ago on the Figula area, so the nursery slope area. We also did some cross-country skiing.

It's a short loop, and it's not really suited for it. However, you can go down to Lauterbrunnen. Now, if there's enough snow, you can go all the way back from Lauterbrunnen all the way to Stechelberg.

That's probably 10 kilometers one way on your cross-country skis. However, that was open just briefly last season. It usually just stays open for a short amount of time, so it's really depending on cold weather and snow.

Then hockey, I said. Alternatives of sledding, great fun, great piece. If you want to break your neck, you go to Grindelwald.

But Grindelwald, it's got some serious, serious steep hairpin-y situations over there. They've also got the Foulhorn. I think it's the longest sledding run in Europe, even.

It's great. You have to hike for probably one or two hours, but you can also just go up to Fist and sled down from there, but wow, that's wild. If you've been sledging before or not, if it's later in the day, it's just going to have a lot of bumps.

Therefore, you're going to feel your back. It's going to be sore the next day. If you're not confident in breaking with a sled, then you might need to practice on some easier areas.

But also, Wengen is fantastic for sledding. It's great fun for, let's say, advanced sledders, but it's also fine for beginners. It's got something for everyone there.

If you go, take the traditional wooden sled or you just go to one of the sports shops and rent one of the cuppy ones. They're also wood, got the metal bottom, so it's going to run a lot faster and it's going to have the cushioned seating area, which I recommend for your butt and for your back. That's a long run.

You can go all the way from Kleinischneidig all the way down into Wengen. That's a long run to take a sled. It is, and it's some walking as well.

If you just want to go for the sled, literally just go up and down Almond or up and down from Wengen. From Scheidegg down, it's sledding as well, but it's also probably 40% walking. Depends on the conditions.

Then for non-skiers, you can do scenic things such as the snowshoeing. I said you can go for hikes. You can take helicopter rides.

You can visit the mountain areas and meet up with your friends and family who actually are skiing. There are great restaurants such as, well, I need to watch out what I recommend here now. Personally, I usually go to Almond because that's on the way down after the ski day.

I go before the masses and I come down before the masses. Therefore, it's not going to be super busy. Other restaurants, Startbar is great.

The Schreidebar on top of Nordwand is great as well. If you want to grab something, there are three restaurants or four restaurants just in that Kleinischneidig area. It's something for everyone.

It's also great. My gran and her partner, well, gran and granddad, usually, if they're in Wengen, they just take the train up to Kleinischneidig and just have lunch with us in one of the restaurants just because they enjoy it. It's close up the mountains.

You're going to be literally in front of Eichemann-Kanulfrau. It's beautiful. Or you go up to the other side.

You go up Mannlichen and just go to the restaurant. It's a self-service restaurant. It's also got a served restaurant.

It's a classic, normal restaurant. Also, great views. If you just want to tank some sun, get out of the crowds, get a coffee with some Baileys on top of the mountains or hot chocolate with a Schottky Baileys, go for it.

There's a small hike from the top of Mannlichen. If you're going up over to the left there, there's that peak just to the left that a lot of people go up to. The crown.

They've actually made a little crown. I didn't know that. Okay.

Yeah, it's very sweet. It's kind of the theme with the crown of the cable car in summer. Obviously, not in winter because it's going to be freezing.

That crown, it's a similar one also just on that peak of Mannlichen. If you get out of the top station, head up to the left. It's probably 40 minutes to an hour's walk.

You see how far it is. It's not that bad and it's not super steep either. Other things to do, literally go to the Jungfraujoch, get your tickets in advance, head up the top of Europe, highest place you can get by, let's say, public transport.

Obviously, it's private, but you can get up there, go into the ice caves, enjoy the views. If it's a great day, you can see all the way to South Germany, to Schwarzwald, and just have a look over the Aletsch Gletsch. Fantastic.

I can highly recommend. I have never done that. I keep looking at it going, one of these days, I'll do that run.

I've never done it. You should. You can also go up in summer and ski up there if you want.

It's a short run. I was going to say short run, probably steep too. No, it's very flat.

Really? Yeah. It's located. You've got the house, it's located high up and then that's just the lake.

Now, that brings up something else. You were talking about restaurants up at the top and all over the mountain. There's Opry there seems to start like at noon or maybe even earlier.

There's a fairly good Opry scene in Benguet. It ends early, but it starts early. Yeah, depends what time you come down from the mountain.

That's when you start Opry ski, right? You can also start Opry ski whilst you're still skiing. Yeah, I think some of the Brits do that. I'm pretty sure they do.

There's some pretty good singing. There's some pretty good singing going on by like noon or one. Yeah, well, it's not as bad as Mallorca, but it's fair enough.

Honestly, Benguet's a great community just because you've got regular guests because it's the family oriented resort. You get a lot of locals, you get a lot of regulars and guests which come again and again and again and therefore there's a great community. You've got a large English speaking community.

You've got, well, multinational, but also a lot of English, German speaking. It's just fantastic. Everyone gets on with everyone and you've got the mountain bars for a drink or if you're getting cold or if you just want to sit down and have a rest and take some sun.

There's so many options if it's on the mountain, halfway down the mountain. I mean, what your heart desires. And then if you're down in town, that's where the serious Opry ski is going to start or close to town.

You've got the snow bars such as Brunner or you've got the Schneebar on the Figgele. Or you can start up higher up with Almond, which has got a great terrace and a balcony. And also if you want to be a bit warm, you can go inside.

That balcony at Almond is really quite nice. I've been there a couple of times and it's a great way. That's sort of where I end my day a lot of times.

You said you did too. The Murin and Wengen are very smaller or they're smaller, they're car free, they're family oriented. You get into Grindelwald, it's a different feel.

It's a different group over there, I think, isn't it? It's a little wilder. Yes. I'd say coming from Wengen that Grindelwald doesn't have a soul.

No, I'm kidding. You've said it, Wengen has probably a thousand people living there all year round, maybe 1,200. And during the main seasons, obviously, you've got a lot of guest workers as well and tourists, so guests visiting.

And Grindelwald is more a city in the Alps. So I compare Grindelwald more to Zermatt, size wise and also mentality wise. So it's bigger, everything works more like a company rather than a family oriented business.

Obviously, things are family owned as well, but it's got the large main street, everything's a bit further apart, you have to get on the bus. You've got the possibility of going up to Planescheideg, Mannlitten or Fiest as well. So you've got a huge selection as well of pieces and things to do there.

And me, as growing up in Wengen, I would never advertise for Grindelwald. It's a beautiful area as well. If you don't want sun... It is down in the valley.

It is for sure. So some spots don't get sun for a couple of months a year. However, that's because it's literally underneath the Eiger North face or just underneath the Eiger.

Therefore, it explains a lot. Also, great views, great for partying. And if you're more on the freestyle side of things and want, let's say, more intermediate to advanced skiing, go to Grindelwald for sure.

And Grindelwald, sun. The skiing on Fiest, you get sun very early on and all day. Really? Okay.