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Andermatt, Switzerland: Steep Powder, Swiss Charm, a Mountain That Builds Great Skiers with Leoni Zopp

  • John Morgan
  • Feb 24
  • 22 min read

Updated: Aug 14


There are ski resorts that look good in photos. And then there are ski resorts that actually ski well and get the snow. Andermatt is the latter. Oh but its pretty too.


The Stats

  • 180 kilometres of slopes - Advanced - 50%, Intermediate - 35%, Beginner - 15%

  • 33 lifts

  • 1,500 vertical metres (4,920')

  • altitude 2963 meters (9,720')


Andermatt is in the center of Switzerland, about 100 kilometers south of Zurich and perched above the legendary Gotthard Tunnel, Its an easy drive or train trip from Zurich.


This region is a snow trap making it one of Switzerland's most snow sure resorts.


A quaint Swiss town, Andermatt has quietly evolved from a sleepy alpine village into one of Europe’s most exciting ski destinations. But unlike some mega-resorts, it hasn’t lost its soul. According to Swiss big-mountain skier Leonie Zopp, that soul is exactly what makes Andermatt special.


From Sleepy Town to Global Ski Destination

Leoni Zopp
Leoni Zopp

Leonie, a former Swiss national junior champion turned freeride skier, grew up in Andermatt. At just 24 years old, she has watched the town transform in real time.

“When my parents tell stories about how it was back in the day compared to now,” she says, “it’s a completely new town. From being sleepy with not much going on to a pretty cool destination where people travel from all around the world.”

Andermatt is now part of the Vail Resorts portfolio and included on the Epic Pass, bringing more American and Australian skiers to the region. Yet despite the investment and infrastructure upgrades, the town remains intimate — just 1,500 residents. “You go to the grocery store and it takes forever,” Leonie laughs. “Because you know everyone.” That small-town authenticity is part of the draw.


Gemsstock: Steep, Serious, and Snow-Filled

The heart of Andermatt skiing is the Gemsstock side of the mountain — a high-alpine zone known for steep terrain and consistent snowfall. Some call it “the black diamond,” Leonie says. She wouldn’t go that far — but she admits it’s no joke.


“It’s not huge lift-wise,” she explains. “But the slopes are so steep. And our grooming team is insane. Every day you just have perfect slopes.”


Gemsstock is largely above treeline, creating dramatic alpine skiing but also demanding skill especially when visibility drops. Much of the mountain sits in shade through early winter, preserving cold snow and allowing powder to last.

And when it really dumps? Gemsstock delivers. Because of Andermatt’s geographic position, storms from multiple directions feed the mountain. “We always get a little bit,” Leonie says. “From different directions, it just adds up.” The result is dry Swiss powder that often sticks around longer than you’d expect. 360-Degree Freeride Potential

What makes Gemsstock unique is that only part of it is traditional marked resort terrain. The rest is freeride playground — steep faces, long alpine descents, and routes wrapping around nearly the entire mountain.


“You can ski 360 degrees around it and always end up back in town,” Leonie explains.

But this is Europe. There’s no clear inbounds/out-of-bounds distinction. Off-piste means responsibility.


“For sure take a guide if it’s your first time,” she advises. “We have really good mountain guides here. They will show you the sweet spots.”


Even without chasing big lines, Gemsstock builds strong skiers. Leonie believes challenging snow conditions are part of the mountain’s identity.

“Skiing bad snow makes you a better skier,” she says. “Everyone looks good in powder.”


The Sunny Side: Natschen, Sedrun & Disentis

While Gemsstock attracts advanced skiers, the Natschen side of the valley offers a completely different vibe.


“It’s the sunny side,” Leonie says. “Wide slopes, easier skiing, more restaurants.”


Andermatt’s lift pass includes access to Sedrun and Disentis, significantly expanding terrain options. You can ski from Andermatt toward Sedrun, hop a short train connection, and continue across a broad Swiss alpine landscape. For intermediates, this side of the mountain is ideal — flowy terrain, scenic views, and the chance to ski while soaking in the surroundings.


“When you can ski and still enjoy the view because it’s not too hard,” Leonie says, “that’s the vibe.”


Snow Reliability and Glacier Protection

One of Andermatt’s lesser-known efforts is glacier preservation. Portions of the glacier are covered with protective blankets during summer to maintain snowpack and stabilize the upper mountain.


“It’s a huge mission,” Leonie explains. “They’re heavy. It’s steep. It’s freezing cold. But it’s important.”


This helps Andermatt build early-season base and protect the integrity of high-alpine terrain — another reason the mountain holds snow so well.


Beyond the Skiing

Andermatt remains refreshingly low-key. This is not an Austrian-style après party scene. It’s quieter, more family-oriented. There are bars and restaurants, but skiing is the focus.

Lunch might mean fresh pizza at Natschen Arena or traditional Swiss fare in one of the self-service mountain restaurants. The town itself stays charming and calm.


And when weather shuts down upper lifts? “You just ski,” Leonie shrugs. “Bad visibility makes you a better skier.”


If conditions are truly rough, a short trip south into Switzerland’s Italian-speaking region can mean sunshine and even double-digit temperatures — ideal for climbing or cycling.


A Mountain That Grounds You

After a serious injury ended her racing career, Leonie transitioned into big mountain skiing and began studying psychology. And through it all, Andermatt remained her anchor.


“Nothing calms me down like going up on Gemsstock,” she says. “Spending time with my friends, drawing my own line. That’s my most peaceful state.”


That sentiment captures Andermatt perfectly. It’s not just a ski destination. It’s a mountain that shapes people.

From junior racers training on steep race slopes to freeriders exploring alpine faces, Andermatt builds skill — and perspective.


Skiing Andermatt?

  • Advanced skiers chasing steeps and powder - take the 2 trams up and ski on Gemsstock - you can try hometown legend Bernard Russi's run (#71 off to the left at the top of the tram) if you want steep - somewhat less steep is 70 off to the right

  • Intermediates try the Natschen side - take the tram and there is plenty of fun skiing here - you can even work your way over to Sedrun from here


What Andermatt does offer is terrain and Swiss charm.

As Leonie puts it, after traveling the world: “Nothing is like home.”


For skiers who care about snow quality, steeps and real mountain atmosphere, Andermatt, Switzerland may be Europe’s most compelling under-the-radar ski resort.

And it’s only gets better.


FInd out more

Best Run - Russi's (#71)

Best Hotel -Chedi Andermatt


Episode Transcript

Welcome to Where to Ski, I'm John Morgan. Today we're headed to Switzerland's Andula Alps. Grab your skis, let's check out Andermatt.

 

Andermatt is in the center of Switzerland, about 100 kilometers south of Zurich, almost at the entrance to the Godard Tunnel. It's actually right over the tunnel. Easy to get there.

 

Driving is an hour from Lucerne, hour and a half from Zurich, or a bit about two hours or more from Milan, right through that tunnel. By train it's two hours from Zurich. This place was neglected for many years as a resort until it became a viable alternative to places like St. Moritz.

 

Now it's a Vale Corp resort. It's also exempt from Switzerland's Lex Cola restrictions, which allow foreign nationals to purchase real estate. As a result, there's been some investment in the infrastructure over the past few years, and it's evolving from a quaint, quiet mountain time to a world-class resort.

 

It also gets snow, lots of it, nice dry powder. No place makes that kind of evolution without some good skiing. Andermatt has been known as a mecca for advanced skiers.

 

The Gemsstock side is powder, heaven, and steep. There's also the Natschen side of the valley, which is sunnier and a bit easier, making it ideal for intermediate skiers. So Andermatt's really got it all.

 

Add to that, tickets now include skiing from the towns of Sedrun and Discentis, so you can now ski a huge region on one ticket. And it's mostly connected by lifts. Today's guest is Leonie Zupp.

 

Leonie was the Swiss national junior champion a few years ago, but an injury sidelined her from racing, and she now dedicates herself to being a big mountain skier. She's turning peaks she once admired from afar into peaks she now climbs in the summer and skis in the winter. She is a blast.

 

When she's not skiing, she's studying for a psychology degree in Beren. And after a quick break, we'll talk to Leonie and find out how this mountain skis.

 

I'm really excited to have you join us today. Well, thank you so much for letting me be part of this. This is exciting.

 

Well, I'm excited because Andermatt is an underrated resort. People, especially in the U.S., haven't heard much about it. And it's really sort of exploded over the last few years.

 

You must have seen a lot of change since you were a little girl growing up in that town. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I'm 24 years old, so it pretty much started to change when I was a baby.

 

But when my parents tell stories about how it was back in the days to now, it's, yeah, it's a complete new town, I would say. And there's more changes each year. So yeah, from being a sleepy town where there's not much going on to now, like a pretty cool destination where a lot of people, yeah, travel from all around the world, it's pretty exciting to see in which direction this place goes.

 

Oh, that's awesome. You know, the only time I'd heard about Andermatt before was because Bernard Russi is from Andermatt, right? Exactly. And, you know, that sort of popped into my head a few times.

 

I know there's some good skiing there, but I just never thought about it. Now, with the addition of Andermatt to the EPIC program, it sounds like it's been all really positive. You've got, you know, the tickets combined with Sedrun and Descentis into a sort of a unified ski region.

 

Has that made a lot of difference? Well, you can for sure tell that there's way more Americans and also people from Australia travel to Andermatt. Before, it was more like Swiss tourists would come here. So like that, those were probably the biggest changes.

 

And for us locals, I think it's cool because Americans are pretty stoked about being here and they love it. So it's always nice when you get positive feedback about your home. And that's what makes it really special for me.

 

And I mean, we would have the chance to now go and ski other cool resorts that are like in the EPIC pass. But when you live in Andermatt, you kind of don't want to leave this place because it's so good. What's it like when you get to Andermatt? You know, it's got a really good train connection.

 

It's easy to get to by car. When you get into town, is it still really an authentic Swiss village? Small? Yeah, I would say so. There's like 1,500 people that live here.

 

And when you, for example, go to the grocery store, it always takes longer than what it would need to because you know all the people. So you have to talk to everyone. So yeah, it's always like everything just takes longer because you want to talk to your friends.

 

And I think that's what makes it so special for me. And it's also when you go skiing, you don't have to meet with your friends. You just go on the mountain and then you see them.

 

Because it's like where I ski on Gemsstock, it's tiny. So it's pretty straightforward. And yeah, the town, there's so many old houses and it's cute.

 

It's very cute. Oh, that's awesome. Now, Andermatt's sort of in the dark a little bit and it's down in the valley.

 

So you don't get a lot of sun during the winter, right? Well, since we are facing towards the west a bit, that's why we do get sun. I mean, one side of the resort doesn't get a lot of sun in the beginning of the season. So Gemsstock, where I ski, is pretty much the whole December, January until mid-February in the shade.

 

So when you want to go and enjoy the sun, you have to go and ski on the other side. And in the town, we have like, I don't know, maybe seven hours of sun. Oh, that's pretty good.

 

Yeah. So I wouldn't say it's not too bad, actually. Okay.

 

So let's talk about skiing Gemsstock. It's got a reputation for just having tons of snow and some really good steep stuff up there. Yeah, some call it like the black diamond.

 

I don't know if I would call it like that, but it's a small resort. There's just one gondola from town to the middle station and then there's another one from middle station to the top, one chairlift and a really steep T-bar that is actually pretty hard for most skiers. And that's it.

 

It's actually not huge, like skiing wise, but the slopes are so steep. And I have to say our groomer team here in Andermatt is insane. So every day you just have perfect slopes.

 

And yeah, as I said before, in the beginning of the season, it's a lot in the shade. So we always say that this is more like the local mountain or the mountain for people that want to ski. And the other side is more sunny.

 

It has wide slopes. It's easy to ski. Yeah, so Gemsstock is more the extreme one.

 

And as you said, a lot of good snow because of the shade. And yeah, it's just how it's like built in the mountains, like getting snow from west and south. It's just was really good since the last couple of years.

 

Yeah, Andermatt is sort of a cool location because it just gets sucked from any direction. When it snows, it snows in Andermatt. Yeah, I would say.

 

I mean, we don't get too much snow if it comes from the north. Then other places like Engelberg do get more, but we always get a little bit. So I would say that from all directions, we somehow get at least a tiny bit and that just adds up.

 

So yeah, it's a good location on the map for sure. So tell me about your skiing today. You took some runs up Gemsstock today.

 

Where were you on Gemsstock? Yes. OK, so now this season is not so far. It's not been great.

 

And Gemsstock is just pure rocks in the summer. So we need a lot of snow to have a good base. And at some places, the rocks are kind of round and Andermatt is just sharks.

 

It's there. So yeah, you don't want to hit a rock, let's say like that. And so we still have to take it easy.

 

But it's super cool. They now opened up a secured but not groomed slope. So this one is pretty fun.

 

And it's also cool for people that are not so much into backcountry and freeride skiing. They can still go there because it's like in the States. Because in Europe, it's different.

 

It's if you ski off-piste, you usually have to bring your backpack and shovel, beacon and everything. But if it's a yellow pole slope, everyone can go when it's safe. So yeah, I skied this run today.

 

Really fun. Was it groomed? Did they groom it at all? Or is it just straight? This is always unprepared, but it's just they bombed it. So yeah, but it's the snow is pretty hard underneath the powder.

 

So it looks really good, but it's kind of hard to ski. It's bumpy, but it's fun. And I always say skiing the bad snow makes you a better skier.

 

Because skiing powder is easy. Everyone looks good in powder. Everyone looks good in powder.

 

Everyone looks good on that hero snow that's just perfectly groomed too. Yeah, 100%. So I always say it's the best training to ski in tricky conditions.

 

OK, so if it really, really dumps and you get a good base, what's your favorite run on Gemsstock? The favorite route? Hmm, hard to say. I think what is special on Gemsstock is that one third of the mountain is ski resort. But you can ski all around it.

 

So it's pretty much like 360 degrees skiing opportunities. Really? Which is actually pretty cool. And you always end up in town again.

 

So there's either a valley or a pass road that brings you back to town. So I think it's hard to say. Because it really depends on from which direction snow and wind comes.

 

And also, I always say that I never tell my favorite run because it's kind of like a secret. No, no, we don't want you to spill your secret spots. That's no good.

 

Yeah, but let's say there is a lot of good runs and there is runs for everyone. So there's super steep stuff, but there's also more scenic runs. And that I do with my mom, for example.

 

And she gets out of her comfort zone too and has fun. So yeah, there's people just have to come and see and explore by themselves, I guess. So is your mom as good a skier as you are? Yeah, she's good.

 

She's decent. I mean, she's getting older now. But no, she's great.

 

She's awesome. My whole family are skiers. I think when you grow up in a town like Andermatt, there is not so much you can do in winter.

 

So you better love skiing. You better ski and you better like it. Yeah.

 

Either that or you leave. Yeah. So what about going over to Sedrun? What's that like? That's the other side of the hill.

 

And that's the easier part. Yeah, well, it's more the sunny part. That's how I would call it.

 

But it's also the part where a lot of new lifts were built. They connected it in the last years. So it's pretty wide slopes, usually.

 

Or most of them are flat or flat-ish. But it's the same there. It's like so pretty.

 

There's a lake on the overall pass. And yeah, it's just this... When you can ski and still enjoy the view because it's not too hard to ski, that's like the vibe you get on the other side. And that's where they do all the grooming.

 

And... Exactly. So that's where I would say most tourists go there. Because there's also more restaurants.

 

There's so much more sun. So yeah, people don't really love enjoying... Or like don't really love skiing in the shade and in the cold when it's windy. So nature and tours at Sidrun is like the way to do it.

 

If you go for everything else but the skiing. Now, if you were... You know this mountain, obviously, like the back of your hand. But if it was your first time there, would you take a guide to go ski Gemsstock? Yeah, for sure.

 

Especially since... Yeah, probably most people from the States listen to this podcast. As I already said, we have different rules in Europe. So there's no inbound or outbound.

 

It's all outbound. And I think that makes it tricky when you're not used to it. And we have really good mountain guides here that... Yeah, spent their whole life in Andermatt.

 

So they for sure will show you the secret sweet spots that I won't tell in the podcast. Okay, but a guide helps too. Because if it's that steep, there's probably some place you want to avoid.

 

If it's been snowing, avalanche issues. And there's no glacier up there, is there? The top part is glacier, but there's no crevasses. So that actually makes Andermatt special too.

 

Because they cover the glacier in the summer with a special... It's not a foam, but it's just like with special blankets. So that the glacier will stay on top. So it's actually a huge mission for the people that work up there.

 

I helped last year and they are so heavy. And it's super steep and shitty to walk on the glacier. And in the fall when they take it away again, then everything is iced up and it's so freezing cold up there.

 

So yeah, we have a tiny bit of glacier, but not too much. I didn't know that Andermatt was one of the ones that preserved their glaciers with those big blankets. That's got to be... You're right, that's got to be a real tough thing to be able to pull up and cover it with.

 

Totally, but it's actually... It helped so much because the top station is... The rock is not super stable. And we have... So Gemsjögg is granite. And yeah, it's falling a bit apart, which is kind of sad.

 

So the glacier really helped that it sticks together better. And also the first part of the slope is on the glacier. And without covering, the glacier would for sure be gone.

 

And it would need so much snow on top so they could broom it. So it's actually pretty important for us to do it. It gives it a good head start too.

 

When it starts to snow, I mean, there's already a base. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool.

 

When you were racing, where did you train? Mostly in Andermatt on Gemsjögg. They have a race slope. So usually the ski club has priority to train here.

 

But we now even have national races. So it's like a mini version of Swiss Champs for the kids. So it's pretty good.

 

And we had FIS races back in the days in Andermatt. So yeah, there is actually some really good training slopes. And yeah, the free skiing makes you a better skier here too.

 

So yeah. Now you can also get to... The pass that you get for Andermatt and Sødrun is now an includes Discentis. Do you ever go down there? I'm ashamed to say I just ski once to Discentis.

 

But I don't know. As I said before, it's just when I can go up on Gemsjögg, I don't need much more. And yeah, Sedrun and Discentis are pretty nice too.

 

They have some cool slopes for sure. But this is more something that I do if there is, I don't know, friends traveling to Andermatt that are not from this area and just show them around. But yeah, I'm definitely the wrong person to ask about cool runs and descentists.

 

No, that's okay. How hard is it to get down there? Is it all interconnected now by lifts or do you have to take a train still? So you can ski all the way to Djeni, which is close by Sødrun. And it probably takes you half a day to get there.

 

So there's quite a lot of slopes. And then you have to take the train for like 10 minutes from Djeni to Sedrun. And from there you can go up on the mountain and ski all the way to Discentis.

 

So it's not possible to connect it fully. There's just one part in between that is... Yeah, but you have to take the train. But Swiss trains are amazing too.

 

Swiss trains are awesome. Are there any like classic routes? Some of the Austrian and some Swiss resorts have like a route, the high route. The French ones too.

 

Have like a high route that's like a big circle around something that's pretty well known. Since we are not... It's not possible to do like a circle. It's more like from A to B. Yeah.

 

So there's no real like slope wise that you can do. But most people, they just want to ski from Andermatt all the way to Discentis and back. Just to get to see the whole resort.

 

But yeah, you have to take the same slopes. Okay. Where's the best view in town? Which hill has the best views? That's a beautiful valley up there from everything I've seen.

 

Yeah, I would say that... So on Gemsstock, they have like a sun terrace, they call it. So up there, you get sun, but not at the main station. And I would say up there, it's pretty stunning.

 

Because you can see all the way to Ciccino, so the Italian speaking part of Switzerland. You, on a very good day, you can see Matterhorn. You can see some other cool 4,000 meter peaks.

 

You can see all the way to Discentis. You can see Engelberg. So it's pretty stunning up there.

 

That's a long way. Yeah. That's awesome.

 

I mean, it's a long way, but it's just... If you look on map, it's just mountains that are in between. So you just see all the pretty mountains from other places. Yeah, so I would say top of Gemsstock is prettiest view for sure.

 

Now, not everyone spends every day skiing. Does Andermatt have other things going on in it that you can do? Like, is there a hockey team? Or is there skating? Or is there tobogganing? Things like that? There is other things you can do. We have an ice hockey field.

 

Like an outdoor one. The cross-country skiing would be really good if we have snow in town. You can go sledding.

 

It's pretty to go for walks. There's a lot of people that bring their dogs to the mountains, because it's just, yeah, kind of nice to let them go and play in the snow. Then we now... They now start planning to build a sports center, which is actually really important for us.

 

Because up until now, we didn't have so many opportunities for bad weather activities. Actually, almost none. And now, yeah, they want to change that, because they realize that not everyone wants to ski every day, even though if it's bad or good weather.

 

So yeah, this is something that our town realized and needs to change. But Zedrun is pretty easy to reach by train. It's like one hour or 50 minutes.

 

And there they have a huge swimming pool. They have saunas. In these days, they have a small climbing hall.

 

So that would for sure be an option if you want to do something, not skiing, and are willing to take the train. Yeah, and that train ride is not a big deal. That's awesome.

 

That's actually fun. Now, you were talking about the mountain being basically shut down when it really dumps and visibility is bad. Where do you ski? Well, same here.

 

Bad visibility makes you a better skier. So I just go. Oh, you're tough.

 

You're tough as nails. Well, it's just, I don't know, I love it. And I think this is part of the game.

 

And yeah, it's an outdoor sport. But I would say it for sure helps if you know the slopes and all the little bumps. So yeah, this is up to everyone else.

 

But I think it's totally skiable when it's bad. It's just mindset. You just have to ski from post to post.

 

Exactly. Exactly. That's how you do it.

 

Yeah, is it all, how far, how much of it is above treeline? Pretty much everything. So that's actually a bit of a downside. So Andermatt is on 1400.

 

And in Switzerland, treeline is around 1800. But Andermatt back in the day. So I don't know, 200, 400 years ago, the valley was full of trees.

 

And then they took down all the wood for, yeah, firing and everything. So they now try to bring back the forest in town. But it takes forever.

 

And that makes it tricky for bad visibility for sure. Yeah, I've found another place is if the visibility is bad, skiing in the trees gives you a little bit of depth. Yeah, we don't have that.

 

But also what is cool about Andermatt is that we are so close to the Italian speaking part of Switzerland, and there is usually always nice. So you can also take the car or train like an hour south. And then you have, I don't know, 15 to 20 degrees.

 

It's the perfect climbing pace in the winter. So or road cycling or whatever, because that's what some people do as well. They kind of like to have like full on winter the next day, more like a springish vibe.

 

So, yeah, I mean, there is options. You just got to get creative. Oh, that's that actually sounds pretty cool.

 

I never even thought about that. So that sounds like you do a fair amount of road cycling when you're not skiing. Yeah, in the summer, the things you can do here is biking, road cycling and climbing.

 

So I try to do what it is, yeah, around here. It just makes my life easier. So, yeah, climbing is actually my go to summer sport.

 

And it's probably as good as skiing here in Andermatt. And not many people know about it, but it's so famous. We have a lot of world class climbers that come here to train.

 

And road cycling is pretty because we have so many passes. So it's nothing is flat here. You need to have strong legs, but it gets you ready for winter.

 

Yeah, Strava must love you when you go cycling. Oh, my. Yeah, I don't know.

 

It's a good summer activity for sure. OK, let's go back to the skiing a little bit. Or what's are there good? I'm assuming there's some great restaurants in town.

 

What's your sort of go to for lunch? You know, you take some rooms in the morning and then go out with your buddies and have some late lunch or something like that. So what we did in the beginning of the season, we usually ski Gemshock in the morning and then we change sides so we can have lunch in the sun on Natschen, which is pretty epic. I think that's the way to do it because there is one restaurant that is part of the resort where they serve fresh pizza.

 

And the pizza is actually so good. So I think that's like my favorite. So it's called Natschen Arena.

 

This is really good. Then there is some fancy gourmet restaurants on top of the mountain, which I cannot afford, but some people love it. So, yeah, we have that as well.

 

And there's just along all the way to Dieny, there is so many huge restaurants where you can mostly self-service and it's actually pretty fast and good food. So people from the States, they are pretty impressed when they see our food system in the resort. And also it's totally fine.

 

Yeah, it's not so expensive. For Switzerland, that's amazing. Yeah, no, I agree.

 

Switzerland can be expensive, but you just have to know where to go. That's why we ask you where the best places to go are. Yeah, well, I wouldn't go for the super fancy one on the top of Gutsch, but all the other places are fine.

 

It's nothing fancy or anything. It's just good traditional Swiss food. And the town itself is pretty quiet.

 

It hasn't developed like some of the places in Austria where it's just crazed at night, right? No, so we don't have much operas going on here. And I think that's why it's pretty chill or like not compared to other places in Austria. And we have a lot of families that travel to Andermann.

 

So that also makes it like not the party town. So yeah, it's more like this cute Swiss town that has restaurant. It also has a bar and the club if you want to go, but it's not.

 

Yeah, you don't go for the party town, I would say. That's OK. That's OK.

 

You know, it's hard to party and ski. Exactly. That's not the way to do it.

 

No, I personally, I did my skiing and then I'm pretty much cooked. I get some food and get ready to go again the next day. Yeah, no, totally.

 

So you have a very inspirational story, Leone. You were a top junior racer. You were the Swiss junior champion, if I remember correctly.

 

And you had a really horrific fall. And then you come back as a big mountain skier and you're studying, I think it's psychology now. Yeah, exactly.

 

How did these mountains keep you centered? Do they provide sort of a home base for you in terms of keeping your mind in the right place, in the right spot? Totally, for sure. I think it's nothing calls me down as much as like going up on top of Gemshock and just spending time with my friends, exploring and drawing my own line. I think this is like my most peaceful state that I could ever imagine.

 

So, yeah, that makes it really special to have something like that, especially in a world where there's just so much going on and with pressure and everything, it's good to have this safe space. And that's for sure skiing at home. And do you explain this to people that you meet up about and talk to them about Andermatt and how special these mountains are to you? Yeah, I think people realize pretty quick how much I love Andermatt because I talk the whole time about it and they get tired, which I don't care, to be honest.

 

But I have traveled to so many places and yeah, nothing is like home, for sure not. And I think that also makes it special when you travel to other places, which is really cool and fun. But yeah, always being stoked to go home is so special.

 

And I'm forever grateful for that because yeah, this is not... I don't want to take this for granted, for sure. Well, when you can step out of your back door and just start taking runs on a place like Andermatt, that's pretty cool. Right? I mean, it's hard to complain.

 

And we live a bit outside of town, so we can ski all the way to our house, which is so sick. Oh, that's awesome. Right? Can you ski to the lift from your house? No, well, so to get to the lift, we have to walk, but on the home run, we can like... On the home run.

 

...walk on and off and then we get to the door. You get to the door and off come the boots. Yeah, exactly.

 

Okay, so the best day you've ever had skiing


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